Budweiser, a conclusion

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Sobowtor) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m05.aol.com:

It would mean most people in America are stupid. As an American, I really don't see any problem with that statement.

Except it doesn't take a stupid person to buy Bud; it takes someone who doesn't care about beer all that much, but wants to drink beer. Or "beer" anyway.

I mean, it's bad, but it's not Milwaukee's Best, or Natural Light.

It's smarter than buying crappy imported beer that costs a lot more and is also bad.

Freud in the Void! We're all stupid!

Oh, no, wait. Budweiser's not the best-selling beer in America. So f*ck off.

What's the best-selling beer in England, then? Bet it's s**te.

Carling Black Label

And yes, you have to be stupid to buy it.

Mike

snipped-for-privacy@adelphia.net wrote in news:l7v1ivo1gvm65tfq08u43o99496as311or@

Well, yeah, but I was just being a smarmy smart-ass.

No problem with that. There's no real correspondance between formal education and intelligence anyways, and obviously not a whit's worth of comparison between intelligence and beer drinking. I mean, all the smart people drink *cough* Heineken.

Crappy macrolager is crappy macrolager. I was at a party a while back where they had a keg of Bud or something. Someone brought Molson because "Canadian beer is better" and "it's stronger". I spent about fifteen seconds trying to educate the man as to reality before deciding it's more fun to just be an asshole on the internet about beer than in real life.

It's not? What is then? I recall that Bud Light sales were getting close to those of Bud (might have even topped it recently) but according to their website, "Bud Light became the best selling light beer in the United States in 1994 and among all brands is second only to Budweiser." Certainly, A-B sells close to 50% of the beer in the US, most of it Bud and related brands...

Of course, their website's FAQ gives this explanation for the difference between the two:

"Bud Light is born in the brewhouse. (Ed. note- Huh?) It uses a very different and distinct brewing process to produce a distinctively different, lower calorie beer."

Well, there you have it- the difference is... they're made differently!

Does anyone have a good website for beer sales, brewery rankings, etc. My bookmarks are all old. I was surprised recently to see a list of the

A-B Miller Coors Pabst Boston Beer Yuengling Latrobe High Falls Sierra Nevada Minnesota Brewing

Subject: Re: Budweiser, a conclusion From: "Gunther Prien" snipped-for-privacy@amazon.com Date: 7/24/03 9:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id:

Freud in the Void! We're all stupid!

Oh, no, wait. Budweiser's not the best-selling beer in America. So f*ck off.

Beer slows down your thinking, your boat got hit.

It's Bud Light, as of last year. Naturally enough, A-B isn't trumpeting this, and it doesn't really change the premise of the pissing match...but as Dan said, I was just being a smarmy smart-ass. Seemed to fit the general tone.

Dude, talking s**te slowed down your thinking: your response avoids the issue. Shocking, on the Internet, I know, but there you are.

Nah. Just a lot of us.

Yer splittin' hairs here, fella. Yeah, Bud Light is America's best- seller, like there's such a big feckin' difference. Combine Bud, Bud Light, Michelob, and Busch, and you have nearly half the beer sold in America represented by those four brands, the vast majority of it being Bud and Bud Light, with Bud Light having edged out plain ol' Bud for number one in sales some time ago.

Carling Bleccch Label. Easily won, that bet. The brewery that makes the stuff is now owned by Coors.

Isn't Saranac made in that area somewhere? Some of that is good, no?

snipped-for-privacy@Stanford.EDU (Joseph Michael Bay) wrote in news:bfromn$9nm$1 @news.Stanford.EDU:

Not particularly, IMO. Nothing particularly exciting, though I've heard the Caramel Porter is good but haven't tried it. It's near enough Quebec where I'd think Unibroue would be available in any decent bottle shop. That alone should make a palate happy (Maudite, mmmmm . . .).

Utica. Not particularly close to Buffalo, unless you're comparing it to the distance between Stanford and Buffalo State.

Caramel Porter isn't half bad. The new bottled hefe is apparently surprisingly good (friends have ponied up; I have not). The pale ale, their flagship, is surprisingly good. Pretty much the whole Matt line is solidly made but as you say, not much of it is particularly exciting. But it *is* cheap for a good-tasting beer line.

Lots of good beer makes its way to Buffalo, if you're willing to go find it. I recommend a new book by some former German U-boat captain from Pennsylvania, called _New York Breweries_ , that goes into more detail.

Witzel

Subject: Re: Budweiser, a conclusion From: "Gunther Prien" snipped-for-privacy@amazon.com Date: 7/25/03 9:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id:

Dude, talking s**te slowed down your thinking: your response avoids the issue. Shocking, on the Internet, I know, but there you are.

Well, the issue is that I got you to draw the conclusion I wanted.

Your boat never made it to the surface.

Kee-rist, it's unbelievable but true: he's dumber than advertised!

Thanks, Slo-boater, you made my day.

Nope. SABMiller isn't biggest at all, although it is in the top five, largely by dint of its Miller acquisition. You wanna tell me which German brewer is owned by SABMiller? This oughta be good for a laugh.

Sorry been of thread a while. Note on the SAB web site they do not list all of their involvements.

Things may get worse. Pilsner Urquell has been bought by South African Breweries, whose own beers make American Budweiser seem positively flavorful.

If you believe their propaganda they are only number two in the world, at the moment.

I will have to dig a little harder to get the list of German breweries owned by SAB. The local german news read off the list when they bought miller and I was very surprised at a couple of the names.

That would explain why Diebels had a big presence in my local market recently. But I guess it was succesfull since I can no longer find Diebels in bars or in stores.

--Dan E

Not necessarily. The American importer for Diebels (at least for part of the country) is not affiliated with Interbrew - IOW, it's not Labatt USA. It's MBI, which imports Chimay, Schneider, Nethergate, and other interesting beers.

How about Frankenheim instead?