Guardian - Beer-v-Wine with food.

in article FXSEb.197960$ snipped-for-privacy@twister1.libero.it, Judith Umbria at snipped-for-privacy@nospam.indiatimes.com wrote on 20/12/03 07:33:

Well, yes, so will I - I have a large number of bottles of St Hallett Old Block from the early 1990s slumbering under my stairs at the moment because at £15 a bottle it was an astonishing bargain for a wine of its quality, and it will be drinkable for several more years yet. Can we get it clear - I'm not knocking ALL wine, just cheap wine, which in the UK (not Umbria) is MOSTLY (with exceptions) not worth the money.

I buy everyday wine from my farmer/neighbor, Marcello. I pay 1 Euro per liter and provide my own bottle. Last year I didn't buy it because the wet summer and his using some white grapes made it insipid. It is always 1 year old when he starts tapping the barrel. Last year, however, he needed more room, so he gave me some bottles he had bottled with his dad 17 years ago before his dad died. This kind of wine is not supposed to age well. It did. It was really really good. The bottles were just washed beer bottles corked up. So it is something of a GIGO situation. When nature makes it not good, there's nothing to do but make spiced hot wine. When nature and man conspire to make it good, anything may happen over the years. My other neighbor, Ivano, makes only white. They like is sweet, I don't. Yuck.

No idea mate. There are clearly very large numbers of other people doing the same as any observation on the carriers will demonstrate and a severely depleted wine trade in the South East. I don't know how you propose quantifying it. We only have your opinion that that it isn't true. You've already demonstrated how unreliable that is.

I certainly never buy wines or spirits in the UK.

Good to see such a large measure of agreement between us at the Season of Goodwill.

Merry Christmas! :o)

-- "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." (William Pitt, 1783)

Yeah. Working for the NHS.

In article , Jeff Pickthall writes

Good lagered beers do not call them selves lagers!

An interesting fact that has featured in various CAMRA publications.

The EBCU exists to promote the various local styles of beer in their respective countries and beyond.

Following up to PeterE

Really? I would promote British beer, not lager.Lager gets promoted plenty enough by the beer industry.

I "promote" that which I like, no need to be even handed. Its called discrimination. I dont "promote" reisling either.

Fine. I like non fizzy "warm" english beer, when lager in my local becomes that rather than fizzy over cold, over priced and sweet then youll find me drinking it.

Following up to Gary Watson

Well at least you knew what it was!

Following up to Martyn Cornell

I find decent whisky too expensive to drink in a pub. A bloody mary is an interesting alternative to a pint!

Following up to Jeff Pickthall

I missed that comment first time, thanks for not taking everything absolutely literally, unlike some others.

I must get a cat and call it Stella

Following up to Reid

On second thoughts I notice by reviewing your posts in aggregate that your just arguing for the sake of it, so I wont bother.

One is not too old to wear gym shoes or, by extension, to go to the gym. One is never *too old* to do anything one can do! :-)

regards sarah

I'm pushing 60 and go to the gym, although I'm not super fit (I bake too much bread and it ends up round my tum). However, what really pees me off is the condescending comments from younger, often less fit people. When I tell them that I've just done a 100k bike ride they say "Good for you!" in a tone that really says "Why aren't you in an old folks home?"

Graham

Following up to sw

very true, must get out for a run tomorrow.

Shame. I'm 55, and use the gym a lot. I've made many good friends of all shapes, ages and sizes. Mind - I never boast about my achievements! I daresay they'd say 'Good for you!' to anyone who'd just told them they'd done a 100k bike ride, young or old...... I consider it an achievement to get out of bed some days......

Pen

ROFL

"Lager" has about as much in common with decent lagered beer as Strongbow does with decent cider.

Will people please not confuse the issue by mixing the terms.